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Lesson 2 of 9 · The Textile Playbook

Why Your “Simple Logo” Quote Varies 300%

Quick summary
Same design, three suppliers, €800 to €2,400. They're not scamming you — they're pricing different things. And some make money on the product, not the decoration.
Why it saves
Spot who's padding the decoration and who's giving you a product margin play. Know where you can negotiate and where you can't.
Bottom line
Always ask for the all-in delivered price. Sticker price is fiction.
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The Quote Is Never Just “Per Piece”

Every embroidery quote breaks down into:
01 · Setup / digitizing
€30–150 one-time — converts your logo to machine-readable stitches
02 · Sample / mockup
€20–50 — optional, recommended for first orders
03 · Per-piece price
Depends on stitch count, colors, locations
04 · Color changes
€10–25 per change — each color = machine stop, thread change
05 · Rush fees
20–100% if under 2 weeks
06 · Shipping
Often excluded, can be €50–300
07 · Digitizing revisions
€20–50 if you change the logo after approval
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Technique-specific setup

Screen print adds
→ Screen fees €25–50 per color
→ Minimum order 50–100 to justify setup
→ Color limit usually max 6–8
DTF / transfer adds
→ Film / setup €20–80 per design
→ No minimums — but per-piece price higher
→ Color unlimited, gradients fine
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The Hidden Pricing Game

StrategyWhat it meansWhere the margin is
Bundled pricingProduct + decoration in one price60–80% on product, 20–40% on decoration
Customer-supplied goods (Fremdware)You supply items, they decorateDecoration must cover all costs + profit
HybridDiscounted decoration if you buy the product from themProduct margin subsidizes the work
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Real Economics

Cheap caps with 2–3 logos
Cap wholesale€1.50
Target margin30%
Decoration cost€2.50
Margin leftalmost nothing
Supplier can't budge on price — they're already at cost.
Premium jackets with 1 logo
Jacket wholesale€25
Target margin35%
Decoration cost€4
Margin available€8–10
Supplier can discount decoration 50% and still make money on the jacket.
ruleThe Negotiating Rule
Cheap product, complex decoration
Don't negotiate hard. They have no room. Pay or simplify.
Expensive product, simple decoration
Negotiate. There's product margin that can subsidize the work.
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The Comparison Trap

SupplierQuoteReality
A€800€50 digitizing + €5/cap × 150. Cheapest until you add €180 shipping + 3-week queue.
B€1,200€80 digitizing + sample + €6.50/cap + shipping. Often the real answer when everything's included.
C€2,400€150 + rush fee + €14/cap + “premium guarantee.” For clients who need it Thursday and will pay anything.
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What to Ask

Q01“Is this price for your product or customer-supplied goods?”
Q02“What's the price if I buy the product from you?”
Q03“What's the all-in delivered price including digitizing, samples, shipping, and timeline?”
▲ Red flag
Supplier pushes hard for “recommended products” but won't explain why. They're hiding margin structure.